Re: Template: Tabbed Emerald

ZenBlaster — Sat, 13 Sep 2014 14:06:44 -0500

Hello There from Costa Rica,

Just wanted to say I'm Enjoying your Posts, Styles, and Mods. I know it's been awhile since you last logged on here, but I'm new to Phorum and it certainly appears to be losing steam, although it's much more fun than phpBB and that ilk.

I've just started using Your Tabbed Emerald and am slowing making tweeks.

But, I do have a Question I posted earlier today in Support, but perhaps you have an answer:

Here's what I posted:

I want Phorum to open and function within my HomePage.

I can Open Phorum with a Load Content Command within my Website.

I have a separate Header, and Left SideBar that I want to remain Static.

But, when I select a Post, Phorum jumps into its own Page.

Can I change Coding or URLs within Phorum files to Open Posts, etc., within itself and not into a new Page?

Here's the WebSite I'm building [SlothCreek.com].

If you click on PUBLICATIONS at the top left it loads Phorum into that.

Thanks Alot for All,

Roland
ZenBlaster
Costa Rica

Roland@SlothCreek.com
SlothCreek.com

Re: Template: Tabbed Emerald

Bluesplayer — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:18:21 -0600

I am using this template with many folders needed. Trouble is the tabs listing has stopped creating a new line of tabs with the 3rd line of tabs going over the forum width. How can I alter the settings to solve this?

Edit: I can see where the problem lies. It appears that index_new.tpl file is limited to 3 rows. I have attempted to add an extra row but nothing seems to be happening.

Update: Worked this out now. To display more than 3 rows you alter 2 files - index_new.tpl and list.tpl. Using this code inplace of the old will allow 4 rows. You will be able to work out how to add more rows should you need them from looking at the code alterations:

[code="php"]
$PHORUM["DATA"]["template_tabbed_emerald_current_length"] = 0;
$row_2_printed = 0;
$row_3_printed = 0;
$row_4_printed = 0;
?>

{LOOP FORUMS}
{IF FORUMS->parent_id 0}
{VAR template_tabbed_emerald_current_forum_id FORUMS->forum_id}
$PHORUM["DATA"]["template_tabbed_emerald_current_length"] += strlen($PHORUM["DATA"]["FORUMS"][$full_iters]["name"]);
if ($PHORUM["DATA"]["template_tabbed_emerald_current_length"] < $PHORUM["DATA"]["template_tabbed_emerald_row_length"]) {
$PHORUM["DATA"]["template_tabbed_emerald_row"] = 1;
} else if ($PHORUM["DATA"]["template_tabbed_emerald_current_length"] < ($PHORUM["DATA"]["template_tabbed_emerald_row_length"]*2) || $PHORUM["DATA"]["template_tabbed_emerald_total_rows"] == 2) {
$PHORUM["DATA"]["template_tabbed_emerald_row"] = 2;
if ($row_2_printed == 0) {
print "

";
$row_2_printed = 1;
}
} else if ($PHORUM["DATA"]["template_tabbed_emerald_current_length"] < ($PHORUM["DATA"]["template_tabbed_emerald_row_length"]*3) || $PHORUM["DATA"]["template_tabbed_emerald_total_rows"] == 3) {
$PHORUM["DATA"]["template_tabbed_emerald_row"] = 3;
if ($row_3_printed == 0) {
print "

";
$row_3_printed = 1;
}
} else if ($PHORUM["DATA"]["template_tabbed_emerald_current_length"] < ($PHORUM["DATA"]["template_tabbed_emerald_row_length"]*4) || $PHORUM["DATA"]["template_tabbed_emerald_total_rows"] == 4) {
$PHORUM["DATA"]["template_tabbed_emerald_row"] = 4;
if ($row_4_printed == 0) {
print "

";
$row_4_printed = 1;
}
}
?>
[/code]

Works fine on my site now - see sig.

Re: Template: Tabbed Emerald

Maurice Makaay — Wed, 05 Aug 2009 13:42:23 -0500

LOL Your parents had that exact same problem when making you. "Coherently challenged" they call it.

I really do not get your point of linking to the subforums module. Phorum is flexible. Even so flexible that one can program a module that implements subforums without having to hack the core of the system and even without having to hack templates to get a different view. Without coherency in the system, this would not be possible. That is cool. Thanks for reminding me of this accomplishment.

If you cannot stand this kind of flexibility, then please, sod off and find a forum that matches your needs or start your own project that does what you need. We wouldn't want to bother you any longer with this incoherent, stupid piece of software that we wrote.

BTW: we're not that good at insulting people. You sir, are actually the first person on these boards that makes me post the truth in very direct wordings. I am sure that there are many Phorum admins on this board that can vouch for me being a friendly, patient and helpful person (read back all the replies on your early posts and you'll see that this is a true statement). There is a big chance that it's your personality that is triggering these insults.

Re: Template: Tabbed Emerald

Anonymous User — Wed, 05 Aug 2009 13:09:51 -0500

You, developers, are good to insult people who don't know coding, but i begin to doubt about your capacity to make global things coherent:

[www.phorum.org]

Re: Template: Tabbed Emerald

Brian Moon — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 14:08:56 -0500

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ab1

Quote
Brian Moon
Nice thinking out of the box.

The more important part of the work is: thinking. Coding is secondary, and reserved to specialists.

Any moron can think of some insane feature. Making it happen is all that matters. What a friggin moron. There is only one type of useful person. That is a person that is smart AND gets things done. Without one of the other, they are waste of oxygen. You sir, don't appear to be big on getting things done. And, still not sure how smart you are.

Re: Template: Tabbed Emerald

Maurice Makaay — Sat, 01 Aug 2009 13:58:20 -0500

That is not a bug.
The tabbed template simply does not support deeper levels.

And you keep seeing the tabs/forums relation wrong. I cannot explain things any better, but you are not on the correct path in understanding what they are, what they represent and why it is coherent with Phorum's core.

With tabbed emerald, you can assign a template to the folders. The issue is that the template design does not provide links to those folders. The tabs are NOT links to the folders, but they are links that tell the index page to render differently. So the functional target for the links that are beneath the folder names has changed, which changes the concept.

When doing things like you have them in mind (when you open a tab, you expect that to be the view of the folder), you'd need an additional module that collects data from the database to be able to render all the tabs, since that's not information that is readily available from the core when visiting a subfolder.

If you still do not get this, then I hope that somebody else can explain this to you. I will retreat from this discussion now.

Re: Template: Tabbed Emerald

Anonymous User — Sat, 01 Aug 2009 10:42:10 -0500

For people interested by this configuration, concerning the use of different banners for element included in a tab, the only possible patch for doing this actually is to configure separate tabbed templates, not for folders included in a tab, or for tabs themselves, but for forums included in a tab. This is possible because Phorum allows each particular forum to have its own particular template (cf edit forum in admin panel).

So, one can have this possible configuration (waiting for further improvements by specialists):

Root folder (default forum template settings)

tab1 (default template)
---forum1.1 (template forum1.1)
---forum1.2 (template forum1.2)
---
---forumx (template forum1.x)

tab2 (default template)
---forum2.1 (template forum2.1)
---forum2.2 (template forum2.2)
---
---forumx (template forum2.x)
...
tabx (default template)
---forumx.1 (template forumx.1)
---forumx.2 (template forumx.2)
---
---forumx.x (template forumx.x)

After saying this, this is clear that the tabbed feature is not only or merely a template, but a kind of module concerning templates, because it is possible to apply a tabbed configuration to any templates whatsoever.

Re: Template: Tabbed Emerald

Anonymous User — Sat, 01 Aug 2009 10:24:51 -0500

Quote
Brian Moon
Nice thinking out of the box.

The more important part of the work is: thinking. Coding is secondary, and reserved to specialists.

Re: Template: Tabbed Emerald

Anonymous User — Sat, 01 Aug 2009 10:17:29 -0500

Another bug: i create a series of folders as following, with the tabbed template:

RootFolder--
Folder1
------Folder2
----------Folder3
---------------Forum1

The forum 1 is accessible via the jumpmenu, but is not accessible via the index page which shows:

tab1
folder2
folder3

without any access within for the folder3 which contains the forum1

Re: Template: Tabbed Emerald

Anonymous User — Sat, 01 Aug 2009 10:01:55 -0500

For example, i have a tabbed emerald template and a tabbed fruity template. One logical configuration would be that on one tab i could place the emerald and on one other i could place the fruity, for example. Such an independent framework ( which already exists concerning folders with other templates) would allow also to use the banner manager module separately according to each template and each tab.

Re: Template: Tabbed Emerald

Anonymous User — Sat, 01 Aug 2009 09:49:57 -0500

Tabs are not only a different representation of folders. Tabs are the folders of the forum itself. Because you can not create tabs without creating first a folder, as pointed out in the description of the template. In doing so, the folder derived as a tab loses the capacity of having a new template attributed (which is understandable because tabs only exists with tabbed templates). But where is the loss, is that other tabbed templates can not be attributed to specific tabs, which means that the admin panel loses its coherence regarding to the gestion of display settings concerning tabs-folders.

So it is not just a question of customization, but a question of coherence of the release itself: either the template is not totally integrated and finished, either the core of the phorum is not enough advanced to support this kind of new templates, but i really don't have the ability to correct this as a simple user and a newbie in informatics.

Thanks for your understanding.

Re: Template: Tabbed Emerald

Maurice Makaay — Sat, 01 Aug 2009 09:08:23 -0500

Tabs are not an existing concept, so therefore this is as coherent as it gets. Tabs are just a different kind of representation for folders on the index page. Nothing more, nothing less.

What you seem to think, is that viewing a tab is the same thing as viewing a folder in another template. That is not true. You are always viewing the root index page in a different layout: folders shown as tabs and only the forums from the selected tab are shown; the rest of the forums in the other folders/tabs are simply hidden. So this template gives you a more compact index page, in the same way as a template that would allow collapsing folders.

And a request: please stop telling us that you don't have enough experience in coding. We all started like that. If you want to do customization that you cannot handle yourself and that is not picked up by any of the developers that hang around on these forums (e.g. because it's such a cool concept or because it's requested very often by Phorum admins), then either take care of gaining experience or hire some coder that will do the required changes for you.

Re: Template: Tabbed Emerald

Anonymous User — Sat, 01 Aug 2009 07:04:58 -0500

I've not currently enough experience in code to do that.

But in another way, it would have seemed more coherent, from my personal point of view, to generate a template which is totally integrated with the admin board functions, which contains the possibility via edit_folder.php, to change templates for each significant elements of phorum: forums, folders, and why not tabs, which are indicated as folders into the admin section.

Re: Template: Tabbed Emerald

Maurice Makaay — Sat, 01 Aug 2009 04:55:28 -0500

One could, but it's not how this template was implemented and not how the template will be implemented, now I checked out the code.

The tabbed template always opens the root folder for the index. By means of a tabbed template specific parameter "tab", the template is told what tab to view.

This makes sense, since for the root view, all forums and folders are available. When you view a folder in one of the other templates, you will see that there's only the folder and it's contents and no longer any information on the context of the folder (sibling folders and their forums).

So remember that the tabbed template simply is a different representation of the standard root index view and that tabs are not a subfolder view. You are comparing two different things here. Your idea will not work.

The way to go: hack the template and show a different header based on the "tab" parameter that is used by the tabbed template.

Re: Template: Tabbed Emerald

Anonymous User — Sat, 01 Aug 2009 04:38:01 -0500

I've just made the test with other templates: the function works very well.

One can attribute a specific template for each forum and each folder independently of the one of the index, which is the template of forum default settings.

But with a tabbed template like the tabbed emerald tpl, the default tpl is attributed to each tab (ex-folders). For the default tab (the first or main tab), it is necessary, but one could make a thing for that the following tabs can be configured with their own tpl, in conformity with the admin board.

Re: Template: Tabbed Emerald

Anonymous User — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:23:33 -0500

Well, i have finally localised the problem with this template: it seems that one can not change the templates of folders made as a tab, though it is allowed by the core of phorum (admin page-->edit folder-->.display settings->template)

Re: Template: Tabbed Emerald

Maurice Makaay — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:14:17 -0500

It doesn't dismiss the utility, but it doesn't match your exact need. Modifying the template instead of using the banner is your solution. The other solution is to submit solid patches that provide this feature as part of the banner manger module. It really is not related to the workings of this template. It works like this for the Emerald template as well. Index is index, no matter if you view the root folder or the contents of some subfolder.

Re: Template: Tabbed Emerald

Anonymous User — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:15:30 -0500

Ok, that's a sympathic template, but is there a means that there is a new page for each tab ?

When one changes from one tab to another, one is still on the main page of phorum. One can change templates for each tab, this is cool, but the page is still the same, and so one can not have different banners for each tab.

The only solution, as it is, would be to not use the banner manager module, and to directly incorporate the banners via html code in the different templates associated with each tab, but it would be to dismiss the utility of the banner manager module for this case.

Re: Template: Tabbed Emerald

Anonymous User — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:17:35 -0500

Quote
Read me
Please note that this template only works if you utilize the folder system.

I take note...

sorry for my english, i confused "within" and "without".

Re: Template: Tabbed Emerald

Anonymous User — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 11:46:37 -0500

I have a problem while trying this template: no forum appears on the main page.

However my settings seem to be correct:

General Settings:
How to Display Forums and Folders on the Index Page: Flat structure

I have two forums inside the root folder and settings are made with: Folder: none

Re: Template: Tabbed Emerald

Joe Curia — Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:53:09 -0500

Joshy, that module is capable of changing all of the colors, but not the background and tab images for the Tabbed Emerald template. PM me with your forum details and I will be happy to help you create tab images in the appropriate colors.

Re: Template: Tabbed Emerald

Joshy — Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:44:58 -0500

Have you gotten support for the Color Scheme mod yet?

Re: Template: Tabbed Emerald

Maurice Makaay — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:14:35 -0500

Learn HTML and incorporate the original code from the header.tpl in your site's header. Do not include your site's header in Phorum's header.tpl like you did now, but instead combine yours and Phorum's into a new header.tpl for Phorum.

Re: Template: Tabbed Emerald

SecretNinjaMan Maker — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:34:42 -0500

I need my header and sidebar!

Re: Template: Tabbed Emerald

SecretNinjaMan Maker — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:31:48 -0500

so how to I fix it?

Re: Template: Tabbed Emerald

Maurice Makaay — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:21:45 -0500

Come on... I have told you that your HTML code is very broken, because you simply included your header above Phorum's header. You created broken HTML that way and there is no guarantee in what way browsers will render your pages. You have multiple and open tags now, which is *WRONG*. You acted like you didn't care, but now I get a different feeling. So, get to it and fix that HTML.

You can also use [validator.w3.org] to check your pages.

Re: Template: Tabbed Emerald

SecretNinjaMan Maker — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:54:49 -0500

OMIGOSH 82 errors? Where? Where? Help!!!

Quote

# In Firefox, there are no issues.

Actually, its the exact opposite. I have both on my computer and it works fine in IE regardless but not so much in FireFox.

I also found out how to temporarily "fix" the problem. When I delete all the cookies on my computer it somehow works again. I am very confused, and I am also very freaked out about the 82 different errors. Please help!!

AHHH!!! 82 ERRORS?!

And what's the LightWeight Error?

OMIGOSH SO MANY ERRORS!!!

Re: Template: Tabbed Emerald

Joe Curia — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:45:08 -0500

Ok, here is what I am seeing and I don't think it is a Tabbed Emerald error:

In Firefox, there are no issues.
In MS IE7, if you change your template from Tabbed Emerald to Emerald, the tab's do not appear for the pages you visited while in Emerald. This means that any index.php or list.php will not display the tab images if you visted one of those pages while in Emerald.
A CTRL-F5 will force IE7 to do a full refresh and will then show the tab images.
This led me to find that the css files are not refreshed simply by opening a page in Tabbed Emerald. The page code will be the Tabbed Emerald code, but the css will still be Emerald. Thus the class definitions for the tabs will not be present.
However, this is only happening on your secretninjaman site. On my test site, changing between templates works fine. I was not able to test whether the same would happen between Lightweight and Emerald as your Lightweight template produces a PHP error.
You may want to download the DebugBar for IE7 and address the 82 other warnings your page presented. Any one of these could be causing your issue.
Beyond that, you could simply inform your IE7 users that they will need to do a hard refresh any time they change templates.

Re: Template: Tabbed Emerald

SecretNinjaMan Maker — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 09:13:51 -0500

There is a problem with this template when I allow users to select different templates to use, as Azumandias suggested. When I change to Emerald Template and then back, the tabs disappear, as shown in my previous image. In my previous post I said that there was a problem with my header and footer, but this doesn't seem to be the case. I'm attaching another image just in case...anyone have any idea why it is doing this? When I just have Tabbed Emerald it is working fine, but then the moment I switch to Emerald and then back, the Tabs mess up. AND THIS IS ONLY HAPPENING FOR 1 FORUM! ALL THE OTHER ONES WORK FINE! I really have no clue why this is happening. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks!

Re: Template: Tabbed Emerald

SecretNinjaMan Maker — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:50:06 -0500

Oh thanks I fixed it there was a problem when the forum was put in with my website's header and sidebar. Thanks!