Newbie: Integrate in CMS...

Re: Newbie: Integrate in CMS...

lindstrom — Wed, 03 Jan 2007 03:26:59 -0600

Hi,

Yes, it´s commercial. You can download a free trial at: [www.living-e.com]
So you can check the whole system. It´s a really nice cms but commercial system have always several handycaps.

P.S. I use version 3, but most files are equal to version 4.

Re: Newbie: Integrate in CMS...

Maurice Makaay — Tue, 02 Jan 2007 17:39:06 -0600

Pffr... those CMS guys tell some really funny stuff... I see no reason why output buffering would be impossible for any system. It doesn't interfere with the scripts at all. Maybe the CMS is using ob_start() internally to do some work in buffered mode. There are still a lot of programmers that think that you can only use ob_start() once, but it really can be used multiple times and even nested without problems.

It looks like it's a commercial product. I tried to do a quick download to see what files were in the CMS tree. Can you provide me in some way with the CMS' files, so I can take a quick peek at possible entry points for the ob_start() call? I'm sure we can work this thing out, despite anything the CMS guys might tell you.

Re: Newbie: Integrate in CMS...

lindstrom — Tue, 02 Jan 2007 11:03:28 -0600

The problem is...I am a newbee. So I have to go the easy way :-(

Re: Newbie: Integrate in CMS...

Panu — Tue, 02 Jan 2007 10:48:36 -0600

I'm quite sure you can use ob_start with your cms even if the devs told you can't. I think you can force the setting server wide in php.ini even.

Re: Newbie: Integrate in CMS...

lindstrom — Tue, 02 Jan 2007 09:04:42 -0600

Thank you. I understand the problem. Meanwhile I asked the author of my cms how to include the ob_start command and they answered that is impossible to use this command. Unfortunately now I have to change the templates of Phorum because it is not possible to include it in my cms without problems. So I will clode this threat with a tip:

You can´t include Phorum in the cms "webEdition". It´s a great cms but it doenn´t work with Phorum...

Thanks for all comments here.

Re: Newbie: Integrate in CMS...

Maurice Makaay — Tue, 02 Jan 2007 08:39:40 -0600

The ob_start function will keep PHP from outputting data right away to the browser. Instead, the data will be gathered in a buffer and will sent it only after your PHP scripts have fully finished. That way, you can still send cookies to the browser, even if there was other code that normally would have sent data to the browser already. My guess is that your CMS is sending the page header to the browser, before including the Phorum code. Therefore, Phorum cannot set a cookie anymore. So using the ob_start function will fix this.

What needs to be done, is to put a call to the ob_start function at an early stage in the CMS software, before anything is sent to the browser. Since we do not know the CMS, we cannot advice in where to put this. This is something that the developers of your CMS must be able to tell you. We can tell you how this would look. The PHP script would get this code at the very start:

If you have something like a settings.php or common.php, you could try putting this code in that file. Files with those names are normally read before doing any output.

Note:

This is not a Phorum problem, nor a CMS problem. It's merely a problem of integrating two totally different software packages, which both have their own fully valid implementations. It's never an easy job, since it almost always turns out that you have to find some work arounds to make both packages to behave nicely. The CMS guys apparently did not understand this, since they are pointing at Phorum. Also, the error you get has nothing to do with strict safety settings, but only with the way HTTP (the protocol that browsers use to retrieve web pages) was designed.

Re: Newbie: Integrate in CMS...

Panu — Wed, 20 Dec 2006 12:33:40 -0600

Well of course if you (phorum) tries to set a cookie after output has already been sent to browser by your cms template it does not work.

The solution would be ob_start as Thomas mentioned. You have to call it in your cms before any output.

[ch2.php.net]

Re: Newbie: Integrate in CMS...

lindstrom — Wed, 20 Dec 2006 01:24:14 -0600

After several test I know the problem: Cookies. The error is caused by trying setting a cookie. If I deactivate cookies the problem in login.php is vanished - just in common.php (if I reply a threat) the problem is still there.

Is it possible to deactivate all cookie settings?

P.S. The support team of my cms thinks that is not a cms problem but a Phorum problem and the problem occurs in my cms only because of the high safety settings which my server doesn´t has.

Re: Newbie: Integrate in CMS...

lindstrom — Tue, 19 Dec 2006 05:49:06 -0600

No other solutions? Ok, tested it again outside of my CMS and it works. So the problem is somehow my CMS...

Re: Newbie: Integrate in CMS...

lindstrom — Mon, 18 Dec 2006 04:08:07 -0600

That is my cms template.

Re: Newbie: Integrate in CMS...

Panu — Mon, 18 Dec 2006 03:03:41 -0600

And your cms template?

Re: Newbie: Integrate in CMS...

lindstrom — Sat, 16 Dec 2006 06:10:06 -0600

Ok, I looked in the login.php and there is no space or something. The login.php is exactly as I downloaded it from here.

After that I thought the problem is my template in which I included Phorum. So I deleted all and now it looks like this:

ISO-8859-1

But the same error message comes again, when I click on login. I tried to answer to the test posting and the same message appears but for this time in common.php on line 862.

I am confused because the forum itself works fine but I don´t know what occurs these error messages...

Re: Newbie: Integrate in CMS...

lindstrom — Fri, 15 Dec 2006 13:01:39 -0600

I know, but I want to hide the Login and Register Link...

Re: Newbie: Integrate in CMS...

DavidVB — Fri, 15 Dec 2006 11:06:53 -0600

You don't need to do this. You can set the permissions on the phorums to allow nonregistered users to read and post.

Re: Newbie: Integrate in CMS...

lindstrom — Fri, 15 Dec 2006 07:44:21 -0600

Thanks for your replies. I wondering about the error because I didn´t change anything. I just installed Phorum, then the portable solution and last I included the phorum.php in my cms-template. I will check the login.php whether there is something wrong...

If not, can you explain the "ob_start" command, please?

The thing is I don´t need a login, because I want to offer posting without registering before. Perhaps I can deactivate the login and my problem is also solved. Is this possible?

Re: Newbie: Integrate in CMS...

Thomas Seifert — Fri, 15 Dec 2006 03:31:14 -0600

or use the ob_start command in the very first lines of your php-code so that nothing is really output before the phorum-code is run.

Re: Newbie: Integrate in CMS...

Panu — Fri, 15 Dec 2006 03:06:20 -0600

Quote
lindstrom
Sorry, but I don´t understand where the error is located.

Line 238 in login.php is:

setcookie( "phorum_tmp_cookie", "this will be destroyed once logged in", 0, $PHORUM["session_path"], $PHORUM["session_domain"] );

Please try to give a solution which can be understood by idiots ;-)

Error is in your own code, you start to output something (a space is enough) and when Phorum tries to set a cookie it gives an error (you can't output anything to browser before setting a cookie or making a redirect for example.)

So check that there isn't anything in your php file before the opening

Re: Newbie: Integrate in CMS...

lindstrom — Thu, 14 Dec 2006 13:52:59 -0600

Sorry, but I don´t understand where the error is located.

Line 238 in login.php is:

setcookie( "phorum_tmp_cookie", "this will be destroyed once logged in", 0, $PHORUM["session_path"], $PHORUM["session_domain"] );

Please try to give a solution which can be understood by idiots ;-)

Re: Newbie: Integrate in CMS...

Thomas Seifert — Thu, 14 Dec 2006 07:52:29 -0600

this might help:
[www.phorum.org]

Re: Newbie: Integrate in CMS...

lindstrom — Thu, 14 Dec 2006 03:06:09 -0600

Ok, now it works. The path in admin area was wring. Thanks a lot for your help!!!

Just a last question: When I click on Login the following message appears above the form:

Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /kunden/83050_33184/webseiten/projekte/site/cms/webEdition/we/templates/forum.tmpl:29) in /kunden/83050_33184/webseiten/projekte/phorum/login.php on line 238

Any idea?

Re: Newbie: Integrate in CMS...

lindstrom — Thu, 14 Dec 2006 02:31:56 -0600

Ok, thank you. I changed the path and now the forum appears in my template. But when I click on a link - the next page appears in Phorum-design again. So for now it is not all integrated but only the start page. Where can I change this?

Re: Newbie: Integrate in CMS...

Thomas Seifert — Wed, 13 Dec 2006 14:14:25 -0600

you need to change that line

> include_once "./phorum_settings.php";

otherwise it can't find the settings.

Re: Newbie: Integrate in CMS...

lindstrom — Wed, 13 Dec 2006 14:12:35 -0600

Ok, I did it and it seems almost to work. Now, when I go to the url: www.mydomain.de/phorum.php the forum appears and it works fine. But when I include it with the include-function of my cms (webEdition) nothing appears. When I use the normal include option with appears this error:

Warning: main(./phorum_settings.php): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /kunden/83050_33184/webseiten/projekte/phorum/phorum.php on line 9

Warning: main(): Failed opening './phorum_settings.php' for inclusion (include_path='.:/usr/local/lib/php') in /kunden/83050_33184/webseiten/projekte/phorum/phorum.php on line 9

Warning: chdir(): No such file or directory (errno 2) in /kunden/83050_33184/webseiten/projekte/phorum/phorum.php on line 11

Any idea?

Re: Newbie: Integrate in CMS...

Thomas Seifert — Wed, 13 Dec 2006 09:46:31 -0600

> 1. What do I have to change in these two files?

depends on your cms, its url-format and stuff.
just dig into the files.

> 2. Which file do I have to include?

phorum.php

Re: Newbie: Integrate in CMS...

lindstrom — Wed, 13 Dec 2006 09:01:53 -0600

Ok, thanks for message. This means:

1. I copy these two files in the Phorum root directory
2. modify these files
3. include Phorum in my CMS

Correct? If this is correct, I have two questions:

1. What do I have to change in these two files?
2. Which file do I have to include?

Thanks a lot...

Re: Newbie: Integrate in CMS...

DavidVB — Wed, 13 Dec 2006 07:02:05 -0600

Since you don't need to integrate the phorum and your CMS, what you want to do is a portable installation. The phorum files are installed in a subdirectory of your site. You will end up with phorum_admin and phorum_settings in your root website folder (these files will have to be modified for your configuration.

Re: Newbie: Integrate in CMS...

lindstrom — Wed, 13 Dec 2006 01:06:19 -0600

Please, give me some help...

Newbie: Integrate in CMS...

lindstrom — Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:23:21 -0600

First of all I know that there simliar questions pending around, bu I am an absolutely newbie and just need some tips:

I am using the CMS webEdition for my site. Recently I found Phorum and I am very impressed. I installed it without problems and decided to include in my running site. So in future I want to use Phorum - but without registration and so on. I read in FAQ´s below point 8 that I have to use the portable folder for including, but as I said before - I am a newbie - and so that´s all I know.

Could you please give me a step by step "how to" for including Phorum into another site? (I don´t need registration - and so I guess I don´t need the addon with connectors I found here in the forum)

Thanks a lot and sorry for my stupid question and my bad English ;-)